Re: Proposal for printing new posters for Ubuntu-be

[François Cauwe]

Hello Everybody,

I would like to point out that the old Poster was already payed before
we made them,
This means, we sold 250 for 60€ to several people, and also sold before
the start already almost 2000 of them.
Please look for buyers before you start to print.

François




jean7491 schreef:

> Steven,
>
> Here again the posters we are debating about:
>
> - the old one ("de weg naar de vrijheid", buy 4000 posters, 653.4€ on
> 16/02/2008, see details in http://ubuntu-be.org/fr/node/17, remaining
> 1500 ex., no reference to Ubuntu-be),
>  
> - and the new proposed one (first time in mailing list on 15/05/2009,
> and again 15/06/2009, 250 ex. for 150€).
>
> About eventual legal objection on the proposed poster (we are debating
> about this poster since 15/05/2009), the original english version "Is
> windows holding your PC back?" -
> http://spreadubuntu.neomenlo.org/en/node/114 - has been modified and
> the used screen (XP look-alike) is not a direct reference to Microsoft
> Windows, we could use the death blue screen with the same effect.
>
> The aim of the poster is not to mock Windows but to be an eye-catcher
> for the public in computer fairs, and to show an alternative : once
> the contact established, the argumentation is mainly about the  
> advantage  of Ubuntu (no "bad Windows").
>
> Additionally, I want to stress the need for assistance and support for
> volunteers in Dipro computer fairs.
>
> --
> Jean
> /Ubuntu Belgium Events Team
>
>
>
> /
>

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[jean7491]

Hi to all,

My point of view about posters is different : I consider posters as a support for the promotion of Ubuntu in places like fairs, public events, and other activities.
The aim is to present an eye-catcher  for the public  passing by a booth, facilitating contacts.
The decoration of a booth requires several posters of different designs (old + new).
For this reason, we need additional posters, but only a small amount of  posters (250 ex. see below), but more often new  models.
If additionally we can sell posters, that's better !    But we don't need buyers before to start printing. 

About timing, we need (old and new) posters and flyers for the Dipro fairs in september : I hope a clear decision from the treasurer on this matter within the next 10 days, before introducing the order. 

Jean

François Cauwe a écrit :

Hello Everybody,

I would like to point out that the old Poster was already payed before 
we made them,
This means, we sold 250 for 60€ to several people, and also sold before 
the start already almost 2000 of them.
Please look for buyers before you start to print.

François




jean7491 schreef:
  

Steven,

Here again the posters we are debating about: 

- the old one ("de weg naar de vrijheid", buy 4000 posters, 653.4€ on 
16/02/2008, see details in http://ubuntu-be.org/fr/node/17, remaining 
1500 ex., no reference to Ubuntu-be),
 
- and the new proposed one (first time in mailing list on 15/05/2009, 
and again 15/06/2009, 250 ex. for 150€).

About eventual legal objection on the proposed poster (we are debating 
about this poster since 15/05/2009), the original english version "Is 
windows holding your PC back?" - 
http://spreadubuntu.neomenlo.org/en/node/114 - has been modified and 
the used screen (XP look-alike) is not a direct reference to Microsoft 
Windows, we could use the death blue screen with the same effect.

The aim of the poster is not to mock Windows but to be an eye-catcher 
for the public in computer fairs, and to show an alternative : once 
the contact established, the argumentation is mainly about the  
advantage  of Ubuntu (no "bad Windows").

Additionally, I want to stress the need for assistance and support for 
volunteers in Dipro computer fairs.

-- 
Jean
/Ubuntu Belgium Events Team
    

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[François Cauwe]

I don't disagree that you should print new ones, it's good to have
different things.

BUT maybe you can find people that what to buy a large amount of them,
which reduces the price for everybody.
I remember that the first 250 were the most expencive ones, trying to
print more would not be a bat idea.
You could do preorders starting from now for 10 days, and maybe you can
make a financial zero opperation like last time?
If you don't try, you wont know! If you want to do make it happen, it's
important to poke people personally to get a better response :)

I think the money mather is detail, you last mail got *enough positive
response to go ahead* imho.
But _I would still ask around to see if nobody is interested to buy  a
large amount_ (like 100/250)? Maybe some people want to distribute them?
I remember that we sold a package of 250 on fosdem the first year.

We also put no reference on purpose, so we could exchange the with our
ubuntu-nl collegeas, it is up to you to see what's best.

good luck!


François






jean7491 schreef:

> Hi to all,
>
> My point of view about posters is different : I consider posters as a
> support for the promotion of Ubuntu in places like fairs, public
> events, and other activities.
> The aim is to present an eye-catcher  for the public  passing by a
> booth, facilitating contacts.
> The decoration of a booth requires several posters of different
> designs (old + new).
> For this reason, we need additional posters, but only a small amount
> of  posters (250 ex. see below), but more often new  models.
> If additionally we can sell posters, that's better !    But we don't
> need buyers before to start printing.
>
> About timing, we need (old and new) posters and flyers for the Dipro
> fairs in september : I hope a clear decision from the treasurer on
> this matter within the next 10 days, before introducing the order.
>
> Jean
>
> François Cauwe a écrit :
>> Hello Everybody,
>>
>> I would like to point out that the old Poster was already payed before
>> we made them,
>> This means, we sold 250 for 60€ to several people, and also sold before
>> the start already almost 2000 of them.
>> Please look for buyers before you start to print.
>>
>> François
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> jean7491 schreef:
>>  
>>> Steven,
>>>
>>> Here again the posters we are debating about:
>>>
>>> - the old one ("de weg naar de vrijheid", buy 4000 posters, 653.4€ on
>>> 16/02/2008, see details in http://ubuntu-be.org/fr/node/17, remaining
>>> 1500 ex., no reference to Ubuntu-be),
>>>  
>>> - and the new proposed one (first time in mailing list on 15/05/2009,
>>> and again 15/06/2009, 250 ex. for 150€).
>>>
>>> About eventual legal objection on the proposed poster (we are debating
>>> about this poster since 15/05/2009), the original english version "Is
>>> windows holding your PC back?" -
>>> http://spreadubuntu.neomenlo.org/en/node/114 - has been modified and
>>> the used screen (XP look-alike) is not a direct reference to Microsoft
>>> Windows, we could use the death blue screen with the same effect.
>>>
>>> The aim of the poster is not to mock Windows but to be an eye-catcher
>>> for the public in computer fairs, and to show an alternative : once
>>> the contact established, the argumentation is mainly about the  
>>> advantage  of Ubuntu (no "bad Windows").
>>>
>>> Additionally, I want to stress the need for assistance and support for
>>> volunteers in Dipro computer fairs.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jean
>>> /Ubuntu Belgium Events Team
>>>    
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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[jean7491]

Hi to all,

As suggested by François, I come back with the proposal of pre-orders for the new posters (model (dutch) below): the idea is to increase the amount of ordered posters for a lower price/piece.

If we order 250 ex., the (sell) price for 1 poster will be 1,50 euro, for a pre-order of 10 to 30 pieces, decreasing for more.

For a global order of 1000 ex., the price for 1 poster will be reduced (0,75 euro for 10 to 30, decreasing for more posters), but we need much more pre-orders. 

Please let me know (before 10/08/2009) how many posters A2-Nl you are willing to (pre-)order posters with a minimum of 10 !

Exact price will be determined by the volume of the order. If enough pre-orders, we can order 500, 750, 1000 posters, or more ...

If there is a need for the French version of the poster, it is also possible if enough pre-orders.

François Cauwe a écrit :

I don't disagree that you should print new ones, it's good to have 
different things.

BUT maybe you can find people that what to buy a large amount of them, 
which reduces the price for everybody.
I remember that the first 250 were the most expencive ones, trying to 
print more would not be a bat idea.
You could do preorders starting from now for 10 days, and maybe you can 
make a financial zero opperation like last time?
If you don't try, you wont know! If you want to do make it happen, it's 
important to poke people personally to get a better response :)

I think the money mather is detail, you last mail got *enough positive 
response to go ahead* imho.
But _I would still ask around to see if nobody is interested to buy  a 
large amount_ (like 100/250)? Maybe some people want to distribute them?
I remember that we sold a package of 250 on fosdem the first year.

We also put no reference on purpose, so we could exchange the with our 
ubuntu-nl collegeas, it is up to you to see what's best.

good luck!

François


jean7491 schreef:
  

Hi to all,

My point of view about posters is different : I consider posters as a 
support for the promotion of Ubuntu in places like fairs, public 
events, and other activities.
The aim is to present an eye-catcher  for the public  passing by a 
booth, facilitating contacts.
The decoration of a booth requires several posters of different 
designs (old + new).
For this reason, we need additional posters, but only a small amount 
of  posters (250 ex. see below), but more often new  models.
If additionally we can sell posters, that's better !    But we don't 
need buyers before to start printing. 

About timing, we need (old and new) posters and flyers for the Dipro 
fairs in september : I hope a clear decision from the treasurer on 
this matter within the next 10 days, before introducing the order. 

Jean

François Cauwe a écrit :
    

Hello Everybody,

I would like to point out that the old Poster was already payed before 
we made them,
This means, we sold 250 for 60€ to several people, and also sold before 
the start already almost 2000 of them.
Please look for buyers before you start to print.

François
      

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